Demis Hassabis on shipping momentum, better evals and world models

Google for Developers August 11, 2025
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Demis Hassabis, CEO of Google DeepMind, sits down with host Logan Kilpatrick. In this episode, learn about the evolution from game-playing AI to today's thinking models, how projects like Genie 3 are building world models to help AI understand reality and why new testing grounds like Kaggle’s Game Arena are needed to evaluate progress on the path to AGI. Chapters: 00:00 - Intro 01:16 - Recent GDM momentum 02:07 - Deep Think and agent systems 04:11 - Jagged intelligence 07:02 - Genie 3 and world models 10:21 - Future applications of Genie 3 13:01 - The need for better benchmarks and Kaggle Game Arena 19:03 - Evals beyond games 21:47 - Tool use for expanding AI capabilities 24:52 - Shift from models to systems 27:38 - Roadmap for Genie 3 and the omni model 29:25 - The quadrillion token club Listen to this podcast: Apple Podcasts → https://goo.gle/3Bm7QzQ Spotify → https://goo.gle/3ZL3ADl Watch more Release Notes → https://goo.gle/4njokfg Subscribe to Google for Developers → https://goo.gle/developers Speaker: Logan Kilpatrick, Demis Hassabis Products Mentioned: Google AI

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