原來這才是空調「去銅化」的真相!企業聯手降品質,逼消費者買單?多家空調巨頭聯手用鋁替銅,格力為何拒絕?董明珠一語道破。把耐用品做成快消品,中國製造正在走歪路,從空調用鋁到汽車快消化,資本正在改寫規則。

谈笑峰声 December 17, 2025
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這兩天,中國多家空調企業——包括小米、海爾、美的、海信等——聯合簽署所謂《空調鋁強化應用研究工作組自律公約》,集體推動以鋁替代銅,作為空調核心換熱器的主要材料。 但一個非常關鍵的品牌沒有出現在名單裡——格力空調。 這到底意味著什麼? 是技術升級,還是成本妥協? 是行業進步,還是企業聯手「改規則」? 本期節目,我將從三個層面,系統拆解這場「去銅化」風波的本質: 第一,這份所謂的「自律公約」到底在幹什麼? 為什麼多家企業要集體行動,而不是各自選擇? 為什麼偏偏是銅,被換成了鋁? 第二,從專業角度出發,鋁能不能真正替代銅? 導熱性、耐腐蝕性、疲勞壽命、維修成本、長期可靠性—— 哪些是企業不願意明說,但消費者一定要知道的關鍵事實? 第三,更深層的問題在於: 為什麼今天的中國企業,越來越熱衷於把耐用品做成快消品? 空調如此,家電如此,甚至連汽車,都開始走向「低壽命、高周轉」的危險方向。 這種做法,帶來的不只是品質下降, 而是一種讓人極度不舒服的感覺—— 企業不是靠競爭提升品質, 而是靠聯手修改標準,逼迫消費者接受更差的產品。 這一幕,中國人其實並不陌生。 當年某些乳業企業,曾經通過「調整行業標準」來降低牛奶品質, 那不是技術問題,而是赤裸裸的資本嘴臉。 今天,歷史正在另一個行業重演。 如果你關心產品品質、產業良心, 如果你不希望「中國製造」走向一次性、快消化、低信任的死胡同, 這期節目,值得你完整看完。 —— 歡迎您來《談笑峰聲》,我是峰哥。 浮世紛擾,談笑峰聲。 #空调铝代铜#格力董明珠#空調鋁強化應用研究工作組自律公約#谈笑峰声

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