Agentic Al Programming with Python - Talk Python to Me Ep. 517
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Agentic AI programming is what happens when coding assistants stop acting like autocomplete and start collaborating on real work. In this episode, we cut through the hype and incentives to define “agentic,” then get hands-on with how tools like Cursor, Claude Code, and LangChain actually behave inside an established codebase. Our guest, Matt Makai, now VP of Developer Relations at DigitalOcean, creator of Full Stack Python and Plushcap, shares hard-won tactics. We unpack what breaks, from brittle “generate a bunch of tests” requests to agents amplifying technical debt and uneven design patterns. Plus, we also discuss a sane git workflow for AI-sized diffs. You’ll hear practical Claude tips, why developers write more bugs when typing less, and where open source agents are headed. Hint: The destination is humans as editors of systems, not just typists of code. ▬▬▬▬ About the podcast ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ This video is the uncut, live recording of the Talk Python To Me podcast ( https://talkpython.fm ). We cover Python-focused topics every week and publish the edited and polished version in audio form. Subscribe in your podcast player of choice (100% free) at https://talkpython.fm/subscribe. ▬▬▬▬ Guests ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ Matt Makai: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewmakai/ ▬▬▬▬ Links and resources from the show ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ Plushcap Developer Content Analytics: https://www.plushcap.com/ DigitalOcean Gradient AI Platform: https://www.digitalocean.com/products/gradient/platform DigitalOcean YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/digitalocean Why Generative AI Coding Tools and Agents Do Not Work for Me: https://blog.miguelgrinberg.com/post/why-generative-ai-coding-tools-and-agents-do-not-work-for-me AI Changes Everything: https://lucumr.pocoo.org/2025/6/4/changes/ Claude Code - 47 Pro Tips in 9 Minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiNpzxoBPz0 Cursor AI Code Editor: https://cursor.com/en JetBrains Junie: https://www.jetbrains.com/junie/ Claude Code by Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/claude-code Full Stack Python: https://www.fullstackpython.com/ ▬▬▬▬ Dive deeper ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ Listen to the Talk Python To Me podcast at https://talkpython.fm and explore over 275 hours of Python courses at https://training.talkpython.fm/courses. ▬▬▬▬ Follow us on Social ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ Mastodon: Michael - https://fosstodon.org/@mkennedy & Talk Python - https://fosstodon.org/@talkpython Bluesky: Michael - https://bsky.app/profile/mkennedy.codes & Talk Python - https://bsky.app/profile/talkpython.fm
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