Alexander Lichter: The State of Modern Web Tooling

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Links - Codecrafters (sponsor): https://tej.as - Alex: https://www.lichter.io/ - Alex on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheAlexLichter - Alex on X: https://x.com/TheAlexLichter - VoidZero: https://voidzero.dev/ - Vite Plus: https://i.redd.it/l0d9yemja1pe1.jpeg - Talk including VitePlus: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5mn3EpWCcJs&t=16353s - Rolldown Vite: https://vite.dev/rolldown - Oxc Custom Lint Plugins discussion: https://github.com/oxc-project/oxc/discussions/10342#discussioncomment-12828320 Previous Episode - Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/alexander-lichter-how-to-get-the-most-out-of-vue-js-and-nuxt/id1731855333?i=1000678873395 - Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5NdqcW2GnQ57IetEKD1dua - YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y32Ko_CkbAI Summary In this conversation, Alexander Lichter and I discuss the evolution of JavaScript tooling, focusing on the significance of VoidZero and Vite. We explore the need for a unified JavaScript toolchain, the challenges faced by existing tools like Webpack, and the importance of user experience in development tools. We also touch on the lessons learned from the Rome project and the future of VoidZero, including its funding and vision for open-source development. Chapters 00:00:00 Alex Lichter 00:06:33 The Evolution of JavaScript Tooling 00:09:34 Understanding VoidZero and Its Purpose 00:12:15 The Need for a Unified JavaScript Toolchain 00:15:16 Vite: The Cornerstone of Modern Development 00:18:21 Comparing Vite and Webpack 00:21:17 User Experience in Development Tools 00:24:34 Lessons from Rome and Biome 00:27:14 Funding and Future of VoidZero 00:35:03 Introduction to Rolldown and Its Origins 00:36:00 Understanding Rolldown's Purpose and Features 00:39:34 The Transition from Rollup to Rolldown 00:42:46 The Need for Speed in Development 00:46:31 The Role of Plugins in Rolldown 00:49:53 OxLint: A Game Changer for Linting 00:57:33 Exploring the OxC Toolkit 00:59:48 Clarifying Relationships in the Toolchain 01:03:43 Type Checking Strategies and Future Directions 01:05:21 Understanding Isolated Declarations in TypeScript 01:06:20 Performance Comparison: OXC vs SWC 01:09:11 The Role of Code Formatting in Development 01:12:18 Extensibility and Plugin Architecture of OXC 01:15:21 Dev Server Performance and Cold Starts 01:21:35 The Role of Developer Relations at VoidZero 01:27:24 Encouraging Contributions from the Community 01:31:19 Collaboration Between Different Developer Communities 01:33:21 Future Prospects and Final Thoughts