Fin Moorhouse on Why We Need to Aim Higher Than Survival

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For years, the conversation about the long-term future has been dominated by a crucial question: how do we avoid extinction? But what if ensuring our survival is only half the battle? In this episode, Beatrice is joined by Fin Moorhouse, a researcher at Forethought and co-author with Will MacAskill of the Better Futures series, to make the case for focusing on the other half: flourishing. Or as we'd like to say in this podcast: Existential Hope! Fin challenges the idea that a great future will emerge automatically if we just avoid the worst-case scenarios. Using the analogy of a grand sailing expedition, he explores the complexities of navigating towards a truly optimal world, questioning whether our current moral compass is enough to guide us. The conversation dives into the concept of "moral catastrophes"—profound ethical failings, like industrial animal farming, that could persist even in technologically advanced futures. Fin also tackles the complex challenges posed by digital minds, from the risk of accidental suffering to the creation of "willing servants." He argues for the power of "moral trade" as a tool to build a more pluralistic and prosperous world, and explains why we should aim for a "Viatopia"—a stable and self-sustaining state that makes a great future highly likely. Read Fin and Will's series on "Better Futures" here: https://www.forethought.org/research/introducing-better-futures Chapters 00:00 Exploring Existential Hope and Future Flourishing 05:04 Navigating Towards a Better Future: The Sailing Analogy 12:30 Moral Catastrophes: Current and Future Challenges 19:08 Lessons from Dystopian and Utopian Fiction 25:16 Exploring Diverse Futures 28:43 Understanding Moral Trade 29:33 Defining Common Sense Utopia 31:18 Fussy vs. Easygoing Moral Views 35:20 The Future of Moral Progress 41:08 Navigating the Risks of Steering the Future 43:26 Preserving Option Value for the Future 46:40 Visions of Positive Futures 50:56 Diverse AI Futures