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In 2017, Jacinda Ardern, the former Prime Minister of New Zealand, was sitting in her bathroom, anxiously anticipating the news of two potentially life-changing events. One, the election results that could make her the youngest female head of government in the world. And the other, a pregnancy test that could not only make her a first-time mother, but determine how she might spend the first few months of her tenure as the leader of New Zealand. As you may know now, Arden both won the election and gave birth later that year. Her term as prime minister included her wading through motherhood in the public eye and guiding the island nation through a devastating mass shooting. After several years in office as the 40th prime minister of New Zealand, Ardern stepped down, saying she "no longer had enough in the tank" to continue fulfilling the role. Ardern reflects on these moments and more in her new memoir, A Different Kind of Power. She joined All Things Considered Host Mary Louise Kelly to discuss that pivotal time and the lessons she took from her time in politics. Host: Mary Louise Kelly Producer: Erika Ryan Video Producer: Tsering Bista Video Director: Nickolai Hammar Video Editor: Courtney Theophin Videographers: Nikki Birch, Tsering Bista Audio Engineers: Jay Czys, Cena Loffredo Supervising Editors: Courtney Dorning, Nick Michael Executive Producer: Sami Yenigun ------------------------------------------------------ Follow NPR elsewhere, too: • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/npr/ • TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@npr • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NPR