Jonni Shreve Reveals How Mike Israetel Turned On Him Ft. Lyle McDonald

Solomon Nelson May 4, 2025
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This video is a conversation between me, @JonniShreve and Lyle McDonald. Jonni–a remarkably thoughtful coach and IFBB pro bodybuilder–shares his perspective on his falling out with Mike Israetel, and offers his unique, humorous insights into the broader fitness and bodybuilding world. Use discount code 'mikehasnotan' for 10% off Lyle's books: https://store.bodyrecomposition.com/?affiliates=110 Online consultations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k7RqYbIeNU&t=0s Email: solomonnelsonconsulting @ gmail . com Discord: solomonnelson (direct message me) Time stamps: 0:00 Prologue 0:09 Chapter 1. Introduction 2:00 Chapter 2. Jonni’s history with Mike Israetel 16:34 Chapter 3. On Mike Israetel’s decision to juice 19:27 3.1. Insecurity among bodybuilders 27:07 Chapter 4. Jonni’s comment about Mike Israetel’s cosmetic surgery 32:43 Chapter 5. On Mike Israetel’s competitive bodybuilding prospects 46:04 5.1. Mike’s superior willpower 53:07 Chapter 6. On what differentiates coachable from uncoachable athletes 1:02:39 Chapter 7. On Mike Israetel’s claim that the only reason he competes is to illustrate that his methods are effective 1:08:03 7.1. On the effectiveness of RIR-based training 1:17:25 Chapter 8. How Jonni deals with troublesome clients 1:20:09 Chapter 9. Bigger and stronger than Mike Mentzer 1:22:58 Chapter 10. On Mike Israetel’s claims about where he stands on a ‘raw IQ scale’ compared to other coaches 1:33:53 Chapter 11. The basics work best 1:38:50 11.1. A critique of Mike’s ‘curl-press-flye’ exercise 1:44:36 Chapter 12. On how to know whether or not you’re cut out for competitive bodybuilding 1:50:35 12.1. Mike Israetel’s track record in competitive bodybuilding 1:51:50 12.2. Psychological traits of great bodybuilders 1:52:03 Chapter 13. On the biggest lesson Mike Israetel needs to learn, according to Jonni: humility 1:59:06 Chapter 14. Mike Israetel’s response to critics 2:04:18 Chapter 15. Jonni’s thoughts on what Mike should do to place better in bodybuilding 2:06:53 Chapter 16. Jonni describes the hostile messages he received from Mike Israetel 2:14:23 Chapter 17. On the ethics of public versus private criticism 2:21:23 Chapter 18. More on Mike Israetel’s cosmetic surgery and inadequate tan 2:26:55 Chapter 19. On roid rage 2:32:14 Chapter 20. On Mike’s receptiveness to criticism 2:38:12 Chapter 21. Conclusion

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