Sam Harris on the Joe Rogan vs. Douglas Murray Debate, Religion, Deportations, & Bill Maher

Sam Harris April 16, 2025
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Sam Harris is the host of the widely acclaimed Making Sense podcast and the creator of the Waking Up app, which offers a modern approach to living a more examined life through in-depth mindfulness training and secular wisdom. He is also a neuroscientist, philosopher, and author of five New York Times bestsellers, including The End of Faith, The Moral Landscape, Free Will, Lying, and Waking Up. Sam’s work spans a broad range of topics—neuroscience, moral philosophy, religion, political polarization, rationality—but generally focuses on how a deeper understanding of ourselves and the world can transform the way we live. Sam has practiced meditation for over 30 years, studying with Tibetan, Indian, Burmese, and Western teachers in both the United States and abroad. He holds a degree in philosophy from Stanford University and a Ph.D. in neuroscience from UCLA.

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Making Sense episode #409 To watch the full episode, subscribe at samharris.org/subscribe. You'll get access to all full-length episodes of the podcast, and Sam's Substack, where you can engage with the Making Sense community. We offer scholarships for those who cannot afford the full subscription price. You can also become a channel member to watch full episodes on YouTube only. Sam hopped back on with his manager and business partner, Jaron Lowenstein, to discuss current events and answer some of the questions you all submitted on Substack. By far the most common feedback we hear from you guys is the following: “We want more from Sam.” So that's what we're trying to bring you with this new series, “More From Sam.” Sam and Jaron discuss community in the absence of religion, whether you should lie to your children about the existence of Santa Claus, Bill Ackman's response to Trump's tariff reversal, Douglas Murray's appearance on Joe Rogan's podcast, the deportation of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, Bill Maher's visit to the White House, and other topics. Produced by Griffin Katz 00:00 Intro 00:50 Religion and Social Media 06:42 How to Stay Sane These Days 13:21 Should You Lie to Your Kids About Santa? 17:14 Douglas Murray vs. Joe Rogan 28:20 Confusion Around Freedom of Speech 35:16 Expertise 48:29 Darryl Cooper & Candace Owens, 53:03 Tariffs & Bill Ackman — Deportations — Sam's Thoughts on Bill Maher's Dinner with Trump

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