Shonda Rhimes on why a friend breakup was “one of the best things I ever did”

Wild Card with Rachel Martin October 23, 2025
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Shonda Rhimes has created some of the most successful TV shows of the 21st century. She says the secret to her success is not caring whether or not people will like her shows. The “Scandal” and “Grey’s Anatomy” creator is out with a new version of her memoir, “Year of Yes.” She talks to Rachel about the freedom she feels when she writes and the imaginative potential of a pantry. WHAT IS “WILD CARD?” Part-interview, part-existential game show – this is Wild Card from NPR. Host Rachel Martin rips up the typical interview script and invites guests to play a game about life's biggest questions. Rachel takes actors, artists and thinkers on a choose-your-own-adventure conversation that lets them open up about their fears, their joys and how they've built meaning from experience – all with the help of a very special deck of cards. You can reach out to us at [email protected]. We love it when you do. MORE WILD CARD EPISODES https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2TjQf2riraI1B7XAE9iqVVtfZARA_A6t The NPR shows you love are possible thanks to your support. Donate today: https://www.npr.org/donations/support

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