Stop Saving, Start Living: Morgan Housel on the Art of Spending Money

HerMoney October 9, 2025
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You’ve spent years saving and investing wisely… so why is it still so hard to actually spend your money without guilt? Morgan Housel — bestselling author of The Psychology of Money — joins Jean Chatzky on the HerMoney Podcast to talk about the other side of the equation: how to use your money in ways that bring real joy, freedom, and peace of mind. In this episode, Jean Chatzky and Morgan dive into his new book The Art of Spending Money, and explore why smart people often struggle to spend, how dopamine and FOMO can trick our brains, and what it really means to be wealthy (hint: it’s not about the number in your bank account). Whether you're preparing for retirement, overcoming lifestyle creep, or trying to define your “enough,” this conversation is a must-listen. Morgan’s insights will help you reshape your relationship with money — and finally start living the life you’ve earned. 🎧 Topics Covered: Why spending money is an art, not a science What most people get wrong about happiness and money The difference between rich and wealthy How to spend without regret, fear, or needing to impress anyone The 15 levels of financial independence — and how to move up Why budgeting isn’t the point… awareness is Chapters: 00:00 – Welcome + Introduction 01:25 – Why Spending Is an Art, Not a Science 04:10 – What Makes Spending So Personal 06:30 – Happiness, Expectations, and Reality 08:45 – Why It’s Hard to Spend After Saving 11:00 – Breaking the FOMO + Status Spending Cycle 13:00 – Spend for Yourself, Not for Strangers 14:45 – Redefining Success Beyond Money 16:50 – Dopamine, Desire, and Buyer’s Remorse 18:30 – Mental Liquidity + Lifestyle Creep 20:10 – What to Spend Money On (and What Not To) 22:15 – Rich vs. Wealthy: The Key Distinction 24:00 – Experimenting with Spending Styles 26:05 – How Morgan Housel Spends Money 📚 BuyThe Art of Spending Money: https://www.amazon.com/Art-Spending-Money-Simple-Choices/dp/0593716620 📘 Read The Psychology of Money: https://www.amazon.com/Psychology-Money-Timeless-Lessons-Happiness/dp/B08D9WJ9G8/ 🗣️ Join the HerMoney Facebook group for more money conversations: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2039572739656574 🔔 Subscribe to HerMoney for more smart, supportive content on money, work, and life: https://www.hermoney.com 🎧 Listen to the full episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts: https://pod.link/1098802558 💵 Build Financial Confidence: https://hermoney.com 📚 FinanceFixx – 4 or 6 Week Coaching Program: https://portal.financefixx.com/coastal/s/ 📈 InvestingFixx – Our Investing Club for Women: https://portal.investingfixx.com/s/ 📰 Subscribe to Our Weekly Newsletter: https://hermoney.com/subscribe 📢 Got Money Questions? Comment below or email: [email protected] Follow the Podcast: 🎙 Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3lyZs59 🎙 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3Rb4nYM 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hermoneymedia/ Listen to This Episode: "How to Spend Money Without Guilt, Fear, or Regret — A Conversation with Morgan Housel" YouTube: https://youtu.be/16XUQCB_tho Full Podcast Feed: https://pod.link/1098802558 Subscribe to the Channel: https://bit.ly/4agSrxo Take Our Money Type Quiz: https://moneytype.hermoney.com/ Follow Jean Chatzky: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanchatzky/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jeanchatzky Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/JeanChatzky LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeanchatzky/ X / Twitter: https://twitter.com/JeanChatzky ❤️ Liked this episode? Give it a thumbs up and share with a friend who needs to hear it.

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