The Shifting Politics of Transgender Rights | Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat December 4, 2025
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Subscribe to the podcast @InterestingTimesNYT for more episodes like this. The transgender rights movement in America appeared to be gaining momentum. But after suffering a big loss before the Supreme Court in June and facing a shift in public opinion, where does the fight go now? On this episode of “Interesting Times,” Ross is joined by Chase Strangio, a transgender rights activist and a lawyer with the American Civil Liberties Union, to discuss strategy in the courtroom and in the court of public opinion — as well as broader philosophical questions about transgender identity. 01:31 - Bostock vs. Clayton County 08:03 - United States v. Skrmetti 23:14 - Defining sex, gender identity and transgender identity 34:51- Chase talks about “coming home” 41:10 - Healthcare for transgender youth is changing 57:31 - Sports and transgender athletes 1:08:57 - Coexistence within the debate Thoughts? Email us at [email protected]. Read the full transcript here: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/04/opinion/transgender-rights-strangio-douthat.html Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

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