265 - Time, productivity, and purpose: insights from Four Thousand Weeks | Oliver Burkeman
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Peter Attia, MD, is the founder of Early Medical, a medical practice that applies the principles of Medicine 3.0 to patients with the goal of simultaneously lengthening their lifespan and increasing their healthspan. He is the host of The Drive, one of the most popular podcasts covering the topics of health and medicine. He is also the author of the #1 New York Times Bestseller, Outlive: The Science and Art of Longevity. Dr. Attia received his medical degree from the Stanford University School of Medicine and trained for five years at the Johns Hopkins Hospital in general surgery, where he was the recipient of several prestigious awards, including resident of the year. Website: https://peterattiamd.com Peter's free newsletter: https://peterattiamd.com/newsletter/ Member-only content: https://peterattiamd.com/subscribe/ Outlive: The Science and Art of Longevity (book): https://peterattiamd.com/outlive/ © 2015–2025 PA IP, LLC. All rights reserved.
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Watch the full episode and view show notes here: https://bit.ly/3KuWg6O Become a member to receive exclusive content: https://peterattiamd.com/subscribe/ Sign up to receive Peter's email newsletter: https://peterattiamd.com/newsletter/ Oliver Burkeman is the author of The New York Times best-seller Four Thousand Weeks: Time Management for Mortals. In this episode, Oliver delves into the pervasive idea that time can be mastered, exploring whether maximizing productivity is an attainable goal or a perpetual trap. He discusses the allure of attempting to control time—and, therefore, the future—and shares his personal journey of experimenting with diverse time management techniques that failed to deliver the emotional satisfaction he sought. Ultimately, they explore the mismatch between being a finite human and existing in a world of infinite possibilities and how all of these concepts intertwine with finding a sense of purpose and meaning. Additionally, Oliver shares insights from his book on productivity, using our time wisely, and embracing our finitude to live a more fulfilling life. We discuss: 0:00:00 - Intro 0:02:16 - Oliver’s experience that led him to write the book Four Thousand Weeks 0:05:59 - Human’s relationship with time and the struggle with the finite nature of time 0:10:15 - How productivity can be a trap 0:17:45 - The fallacy that being more efficient will open up more time and bring a feeling of control 0:25:14 - The paradoxical nature of trying too hard to be present in the current moment 0:30:33 - The value of relationships in meaningful experiences and fulfillment, and how time gets its value from being shared 0:42:09 - The importance of time synchronicity 0:48:07 - Identifying your biggest priorities and the paradox of wanting to do more than you have time for 0:55:37 - Oliver’s moment of clarity in 2014 0:59:25 - The role of a sense of purpose in fulfillment 1:10:36 - Reconciling the finite nature of time and letting go of trying to master your time 1:18:58 - Why we tend to have a future-focused attitude and how to combat that with atelic activities 1:27:36 - The power of shifting your perspective about time and your experiences 1:36:54 - How to operationalize the three principles for the dilemma of finite time 1:46:05 - Harnessing the power of patience in the face of a problem or experience 1:53:58 - The value of incrementalism for being productive 1:58:34 - Embracing your finitude with curiosity 2:02:10 - Acting on an idea in the moment rather than letting the idea be the obstacle -------- About: The Peter Attia Drive is a deep-dive podcast focusing on maximizing longevity, and all that goes into that from physical to cognitive to emotional health. With over 70 million episodes downloaded, it features topics including exercise, nutritional biochemistry, cardiovascular disease, Alzheimer’s disease, cancer, mental health, and much more. Peter Attia is the founder of Early Medical, a medical practice that applies the principles of Medicine 3.0 to patients with the goal of lengthening their lifespan and simultaneously improving their healthspan. Learn more: https://peterattiamd.com Connect with Peter on: Facebook: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDFB Twitter: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDTW Instagram: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDIG Subscribe to The Drive: Apple Podcast: http://bit.ly/TheDriveApplePodcasts Overcast: http://bit.ly/TheDriveOvercast Spotify: http://bit.ly/TheDriveSpotify Google Podcasts: http://bit.ly/TheDriveGoogle Disclaimer: This podcast is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute the practice of medicine, nursing, or other professional healthcare services, including the giving of medical advice. No doctor-patient relationship is formed. The use of this information and the materials linked to this podcast is at the user's own risk. The content on this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical condition they have, and they should seek the assistance of their healthcare professionals for any such conditions. I take conflicts of interest very seriously. For all of my disclosures and the companies I invest in or advise, please visit my website where I keep an up-to-date and active list of such companies. For a full list of our registered and unregistered trademarks, trade names, and service marks, please review our Terms of Use: https://peterattiamd.com/terms-of-use/
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