Where Biology Goes Off the Rails - Dr. Michael Levin, DemystifySci #369

The DemystifySci Podcast October 1, 2025
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DemystifySci is Dr. Anastasia Bendebury and Dr. Michael Shilo DeLay. Together they untangle complex theories of nature, making analysis accessible through conversations with exceptional thinkers. Each week they interview a new theorist about the ideas that are going to rewrite our understanding of the world. Power them via Patreon: @demystifysci Available at every podcast store too! Come join the discussion on Discord and Facebook All music is original unless otherwise stated (Shilo Delay, Secretary of Nature). #DemystifySci #LongformPodcast #SciencePodcast #PhilosophyPodcast #physicspodcast #Economics #History #consciousness #quantumphysics #quantummechanics

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Michael Levin is a synthetic biologist at Tufts University who believes that asking questions about “life” is a fruitless project. Instead, he argues that we ought to be trying to understand the emergence of cognition - a feature that he believes appears long before cells emerge. As part of this project, Levin has started to pull on a series of threads woven through the origin of life debate that seem to show basic elements of thinking systems - habituation, sensitization, conditioning - can be found in simple physical networks. We dig into how these systems work, what they reveal about life, and how his approach to understanding nature resolves a lot of biological paradoxes. PATREON https://www.patreon.com/c/demystifysci PARADIGM DRIFT https://demystifysci.com/paradigm-drift-show HOMEBREW MUSIC - Check out our new album! Hard Copies (Vinyl): FREE SHIPPING https://demystifysci-shop.fourthwall.com/products/vinyl-lp-secretary-of-nature-everything-is-so-good-here Streaming: https://secretaryofnature.bandcamp.com/album/everything-is-so-good-here 00:00 Go! 00:05:11 Exploring the Origins and Definitions of Life 00:11:30 The Complexity of Defining Life 00:14:30 The Limitations of Scientific Categories 00:17:58 Re-evaluating Life and Cognition 00:19:40 Theoretical Perspectives on Life 00:20:08 The Spectrum of Cognition and the Re-enchantment of Nature 00:24:09 Experimental Approaches to Understanding Cognition in Networks 00:30:14 Feedback Loops in Learning and Causal Emergence 00:35:34 The Role of Chemical Interactions in the Origins of Life 00:39:27 Discussion on Learning and Molecular Networks 00:41:35 The Nature of Complexity and Consciousness 00:45:04 Science and the Crisis of Meaning 00:49:34 Expanding Compassion in Understanding Life 00:54:13 Methodology of Chemical Experimentation 00:58:53 Analysis at Different System Levels 01:01:56 Causal Powers of Networks 01:04:31 Collective Intelligence in Biological Systems #cognition, #bioelectric, #emergent , #complexsystems, #neuroscience, #regenerativemedicine , #origins, #philosophypodcast , #sciencepodcast, #longformpodcast MERCH: Rock some DemystifySci gear : https://demystifysci-shop.fourthwall.com/ AMAZON: Do your shopping through this link: https://amzn.to/3YyoT98 DONATE: https://bit.ly/3wkPqaD SUBSTACK: https://substack.com/@UCqV4_7i9h1_V7hY48eZZSLw@demystifysci RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/2be66934/podcast/rss MAILING LIST: https://bit.ly/3v3kz2S SOCIAL: - Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DemystifySci - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/DemystifySci/ - Twitter: https://twitter.com/DemystifySci MUSIC: -Shilo Delay: https://g.co/kgs/oty671

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