EP-104 何伟:我的两代中国学生——改革一代与习近平一代 | 教育 | 小学 | 内卷 | 奥威尔 | 中美关系 | 举报 | Peter Hessler | Other Rivers |

不明白播客 July 12, 2024
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何伟(Peter Hessler)可能是中国人最关注的美国非虚构作家。他写的中国三部曲《江城》《甲骨文》和《寻路中国》有众多的中文读者。 90年代中期,他在涪陵师专做过两年的英语教师。2000年至2007年,他是《纽约客》杂志驻中国的记者。2019年至2021年,他和家人搬回中国。在四川大学教授非虚构写作期间,有学生把据说是他的言论贴到了网上,受到小粉红的攻击。而他在《纽约客》杂志上发表的关于中国疫情的报道引发了另一种争议,认为他在颂扬中国政府。2021年,四川大学匹兹堡学院拒绝跟何伟续约,他和家人搬回了美国科罗拉多州居住。 这周何伟的新书《Other Rivers:A Chinese Education》在美国出版。这本书讲述了两个世代眼中的中国和对中国未来的两种期盼。在书的开头,何伟写到了自己的一个疑惑,同时也是困扰很多中国人、中国问题专家和外交政策制定者的一个问题:“一个国家怎么可能经历如此多的社会经济和教育变革,而政治却停滞不前甚至倒退了呢?” 在这期播客里,何伟讲述了他为什么称他的两代学生为“改革一代”和“习近平一代”。他为什么说竞争是改革一代的信仰?为什么称习近平一代为老灵魂?认为他们对于中国的制度没有过多幻想?他如何看待对他疫情报道的批评?年轻人能否改变中国的政治体制,以及中国人有没有争取自由的意愿。 文字版: bit.ly/bmb-104-txt 时间轴: 2:07 何伟教的改革一代和习近平一代学生区别:身高、穿着 7:01 学生们五花八门的英文名 13:33 习近平算“迷惘的一代”?换一种方式看每一代人 16:26 改革一代对竞争的信仰 19:33 习一代的“内卷”“躺平” 22:46 中国的年轻人更加现实一点 26:25 何伟如何看待对他疫情报道的批评 38:21 何伟被学生举报时的心态 45:21 改革一代和习一代的自由度相比 48:59 何伟两个女儿上成都实验小学的经历 52:26 中国政府培养孩子对政治的漠视和竞争意识 56:59 在川大教奥威尔的《动物庄园》,学生们认为自己是书里的谁? 1:01:53 中国的年轻人能改变中国的政治体制吗? 1:09:09 中美关系脱钩对何伟的影响 1:15:33 中国人是否有争取自由的意愿 1:21:17 嘉宾推荐 1:22:48 何伟接下来还会写关于中国的书吗 1:23:50 书名的来源 本集提到: 《Other Rivers:A Chinese Education》(2024) Peter Hessler 何伟 著 暂未有中文版 嘉宾推荐: 1. 《同情者》(2015) 阮清越 著 2. 《Burma Sahib》(2024) Paul Theroux 著 暂无中文版 官网:bumingbai.net 推特:@bumingbaipod 捐赠链接:https://bit.ly/bmb-donate

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