EP-153 唐志学:习近平从习仲勋身上学到了什么?| 习仲勋传 | 延安整风运动 | 文化大革命 | 中共权力斗争 | 邓小平 | 达赖喇嘛 | 党的利益在第一位 | Joseph Torigian

不明白播客 May 30, 2025
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当下中国最有趣的谈话都是在私下进行的。《不明白播客》希望把有趣的谈话分享给世界各地的中文听众,在这个黑暗、混乱的时代发出一点光亮和温度。 不明白播客为非盈利项目,不接受商业合作,但是欢迎个人用户捐赠。

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为什么一个受尽折磨和苦难的人仍然会衷心于给他带来巨大苦难的党?这也许是理解中国政治的核心问题之一。美利坚大学副教授唐志学Joseph Torigian在即将出版的新书《The Party’s Interests Come First》(党的利益在第一位)中通过翔实的史料描写了习仲勋跌宕起伏的一生。 习仲勋不仅是习近平的父亲,也是中共元老中最复杂、最悲剧的代表之一。书写和理解一个复杂的共产党人物,无疑是非常困难的,唐志学如何从庞杂的、并不透明的党史资料中找到重要的线头?如何判断和选取这些资料?唐志学也谈到作为历史学家的责任和意义,他写这本书,目的并不在于判断习仲勋是“好”是“坏”,而是讲述这个人究竟生活在一个什么样的体制里?这个体制又是如何塑造和吞噬个人的? 也许许多听众更关心的是:理解习仲勋的一生,可以理解习近平的执政逻辑吗?习近平为何会成为今天的习近平,历史、家庭和个人的因素如何塑造他?他所走的路,是对父亲习仲勋的继承还是背叛?他会将中国推向何方?欢迎收听本期播客。 文字版:https://bit.ly/bmb-153-text 时间轴: 03:51 为什么唐志学要写“习仲勋传” 07:36 如何选取史料、采访达赖喇嘛的珍贵经历 11:26 延安整风运动与习仲勋“荒诞又恐怖”的作为 15:03 习仲勋为什么被提拔得这么快? 17:17 统战工作中,真实的友谊VS政治的友谊 21:19 习仲勋为何总在最后走到左倾或强硬的路线之中? 24:52 中共领导人为什么要为了讨好毛泽东而实施糟糕的政策? 28:17 习仲勋的悲剧时刻之一:反党小说《刘志丹》的出版 31:26 习仲勋的精神状态:常年的哭声 33:13 习仲勋如何教育习近平? 38:35 习仲勋说,习近平是做总理的料 39:58 习仲勋在习近平的仕途中发挥了什么作用? 44:58 习近平为何没有成长为一个改革派? 48:33 如何理解习仲勋身上的诸多标签? 51:38 习近平何时变成习近平? 55:38 习近平的世界观:接班政治与自我革命 01:05:26 嘉宾推荐 唐志学 #嘉宾推荐: 1.《潮爆莫斯科》(Hipsters) https://movie.douban.com/subject/3260445/ 2.钟延麟:《彭真:毛泽东的“亲密战友”(1941-1966)》 https://bit.ly/43RxiIF 3.蒋光慈:《少年漂泊者》 https://book.douban.com/subject/35439520/ 相关链接: 唐志学《The Party's Interests Come First》(习仲勋传) https://www.sup.org/books/history/partys-interests-come-first EP-033 唐志学:独裁者的终局与继承 https://youtu.be/fHWvkLNNVxU EP-116 蔡霞:习近平从毛泽东身上学到了什么? https://youtu.be/37uUuoE-6cU

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