Erykah Badu on D’Angelo, Radical Empathy, Marilyn Manson, Love & Hip-Hop

Popcast October 23, 2025
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Last month, the singer and songwriter Erykah Badu stopped by Popcast, The New York Times music show, for a wide-ranging conversation about her reign as one of music’s most idiosyncratic and spiritual figures, plus: her early days and kinship with D’Angelo & Questlove, radical empathy for society's villains, love and hip-hop. Then, she treated The Times’ newsroom to a very special live performance, featuring a new track and songs from her classic albums “Baduizm,” “Mama’s Gun” and “Worldwide Underground.” 04:40 Early days 11:11 D’Angelo, QuestLove and other early collaborators 21: 45 Touring vs. recording 29:45 Being a muse to André 3000, Jay Electronica & others 32:15 Dating & family 35:00 Her social media prowess 36:57 Radical empathy and righteousness 42:50 “Stay woke” 45:23 Working as a doula, for birth and death 49:20 Breathwork with Jon and Joe 51:10 Popcast Lightning Round! 52:30 Self-doubt 56:50 DMs 58:20 Snack time (Popcast’s worst snack!?) 01:03:50 Newsroom performance preview Follow Jon: https://twitter.com/joncaramanica https://www.instagram.com/joncaramanica Follow Joe: https://twitter.com/joecoscarelli https://www.instagram.com/joecoscarelli/ Listen to every Popcast ever https://www.nytimes.com/popcast Every episode of Popcast (Deluxe) on YouTube https://tinyurl.com/PopcastDeluxe Popcast Discord! https://tinyurl.com/PopcastDiscord Popcast Facebook! https://tinyurl.com/PopcastFacebook Popcast t-shirts & stickers http://itsthepopcast.myshopify.com Subscribe: http://bit.ly/U8Ys7n More from The New York Times Video: http://nytimes.com/video

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