Hungry, tired, and foggy? Here's how to fix it according to scientists | Prof. Ben Gardner

ZOE October 23, 2025
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Get 6+ FREE breakfast recipes from nutrition experts: https://zoe.com/breakfastguide Why do so many of us eat a "healthy" breakfast like cereal or muesli, only to feel hungry, tired, and foggy by 11 AM? And why is it so hard to break this routine, even when we know it’s not working? In this episode, Jonathan Wolf speaks to Professor Ben Gardner, a leading expert in habit psychology, and Professor Tim Spector, a world-leading scientist in nutrition and gut health. They explore the science behind why our breakfast routines are broken, how they set us up for a daily blood sugar rollercoaster, and what to do to fix things. Tim breaks down the latest science on common breakfast foods, explaining why most cereals, muesli, fruit juices, and "high-protein" options are failing us, leading to energy dips and mood changes. Ben explains the psychology of why we're stuck. He reveals why bad habits run on autopilot, why our environment is more powerful than our willpower, and busts the persistent "21-day" myth, explaining how long it really takes to form a new habit. Timecodes: 00:00 Introduction 01:25 Does building a new habit take 21 days? 02:05 Is breakfast the most important meal of the day? 04:05 The 'healthy' breakfast that causes an 11 AM energy dip 05:15 How your breakfast creates a blood sugar rollercoaster 07:15 Can today's breakfast affect tomorrow's hunger? 08:05 The 'healthy' cereal trap: "Only if you're a shareholder of Kellogg's" 10:10 What is a 'habit' in psychology? (It's not what you think) 11:15 The 'autopilot' breakfast: Making food without realizing 13:50 The stale popcorn experiment: Why you eat food you don't even like 16:30 The secret to change: Identify your environmental triggers 18:30 The 'fresh start effect': Why Monday is a powerful day to change 20:40 The "I've already failed today" mindset (and why it's wrong) 22:30 What are 'keystone habits'? 25:45 The 3 ways to break a bad habit (it's not just willpower) 28:00 How to use breakfast as your 'first win' of the day 29:40 Tim Spector's ideal breakfast to avoid a sugar crash 32:30 The 'high protein' cereal lie: "Most of them are rubbish" 33:30 Is Marmite actually healthy? 34:55 Tim's 3 simple principles for a healthy breakfast 38:20 The 21-day myth busted: How long it really takes to form a habit 40:50 What is 'habit stacking'? 41:55 Does missing one day ruin your new habit? 42:35 How to swap your cereal habit (Ben's practical plan) 45:00 How long until a new habit feels 'automatic'? 46:00 A 3-step practical guide to change your breakfast habit 📚Books by our ZOE Scientists The Food For Life Cookbook | https://amzn.to/4amfIMX Every Body Should Know This by Dr Federica Amati | https://amzn.to/4blJsLg Food For Life by Prof. Tim Spector | https://amzn.to/4amZinu Ferment by Prof. Tim Spector | https://amzn.to/4hU1Df5 Free resources from ZOE: Live Healthier: Top 10 Tips From ZOE Science & Nutrition | https://zoe.com/freeguide?utm_medium=podcast&utm_source=podcast&utm_campaign=freeguide Gut Guide - For a Healthier Microbiome in Weeks | https://zoe.com/gutguide?utm_medium=podcast&utm_source=podcast&utm_campaign=gutguide Better Breakfast Guide | https://zoe.com/breakfastguide?utm_medium=podcast&utm_source=podcast&utm_campaign=breakfastguide Have feedback or a topic you'd like us to cover? Let us know here: https://gf6hx47iu5g.typeform.com/topicsuggestion Episode transcripts are available here: https://zoe.com/learn/category/podcast

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