Is DeepSeek Legit? Breaking Down All Major Allegations

bycloud January 31, 2025
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Start a VPS cost effectively with Hostinger today and use discount code "BYCLOUD" for an extra 10% off! http://hostinger.com/bycloud Watch my last video https://youtu.be/CiS9gDfYZ-w My newsletter https://mail.bycloud.ai/ Support me on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/c/bycloud In this video, I'll be breaking down a lot of the allegations that DeepSeek received, and clarify some information which seems to be some misunderstanding. If you have other sources that can support or argue against the points, feel free to leave it down in the comments! However, this is not a debate, I just want to share the truth & what I find the most reliable. I have been reading their research for a while, so seeing a lot of these criticisms specifically to DeepSeek really seem like a big misunderstanding. 0:00 intro 0:35 50,000 "illegal" GPUs? 2:30 $5mil is bs 8:35 stolen data 11:49 DeepSeek is NOT a side project 14:25 miscellaneous Sources [SemiAnalysis] http://semianalysis.com/ [anthropic CEO post] https://darioamodei.com/on-deepseek-and-export-controls [Eryck Banatt] https://planetbanatt.net/articles/v3fermi.html [LLM Cost Calculator] https://tnyqnervqldjme1y.vercel.app/ [Highflyer Blogs] https://www.high-flyer.cn/en/blog/hf-reduce/ [Free NVIDIA R1 Preview] https://build.nvidia.com/deepseek-ai/deepseek-r1 Papers [DeepSeek-R1] https://arxiv.org/abs/2501.12948 [DeepSeek-v3] https://arxiv.org/abs/2412.19437 [DeepSeek-v2] https://arxiv.org/abs/2405.04434 [DeepSeekMoE] https://arxiv.org/abs/2401.06066 [DeepSeekMath] https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.03300 [DeepSeekLLM] https://arxiv.org/abs/2401.02954 This video is supported by the kind Patrons & YouTube Members: 🙏Andrew Lescelius, Ben Shaener, Chris LeDoux, Miguilim, Deagan, FiFaŁ, Robert Zawiasa, Marcelo Ferreira, Owen Ingraham, Daddy Wen, Tony Jimenez, Panther Modern, Jake Disco, Demilson Quintao, Penumbraa, Shuhong Chen, Hongbo Men, happi nyuu nyaa, Carol Lo, Mose Sakashita, Miguel, Bandera, Gennaro Schiano, gunwoo, Ravid Freedman, Mert Seftali, Mrityunjay, Richárd Nagyfi, Timo Steiner, Henrik G Sundt, projectAnthony, Brigham Hall, Kyle Hudson, Kalila, Jef Come, Jvari Williams, Tien Tien, BIll Mangrum, owned, Janne Kytölä, SO, Richárd Nagyfi, Hector, Drexon, Claxvii 177th, Inferencer, Michael Brenner, Akkusativ, Oleg Wock, FantomBloth, Thipok Tham, Clayton Ford, Theo, Handenon, Diego Silva, mayssam, Kadhai Pesalam, Tim Schulz, jiye, Anushka, Henrik Sundt, Julian Aßmann, Thomas Lin, Sid_Cypher, Mark Buckler, Kevin Tai, NO U, Gonzalo Fidalgo, Igor Alvarez, Alon Pluda, Clément Veyssière, Sander Zwaenepoel, etrotta, Binnie Yiu, Matej Macak, c zhou, Berhane-Meskel, sai sandeep mandava, Leo, Asad Dhamani, ZyanSheep, Stefan Lorenz, Ângelo Fonseca [Discord] https://discord.gg/NhJZGtH [Twitter] https://twitter.com/bycloudai [Patreon] https://www.patreon.com/bycloud [Business Inquiries] [email protected] [Music] all taken from http://uppbeat.io/ [Profile & Banner Art] https://twitter.com/pygm7 [Video Editor] me [Bitcoin (BTC)] 3JFMJQVGXNA2HJE5V9qCwLiqy6wHY9Vhdx [Ethereum (ETH)] 0x3d784F55E0bE5f35c1566B2E014598C0f354f190 [Litecoin (LTC)] MGHnqALjyU2W6NuJSSW9fTWV4dcHfwHZd7 [Bitcoin Cash (BCH)] 1LkyGfzHxnSfqMF8tN7ZGDwUTyBB6vcii9 [Solana (SOL)] 6XyMCEdVhtxJQRjMKgUJaySL8cGoBPzzA2NPDMPfVkKN [Ko-fi] https://ko-fi.com/bycloudai

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