Michael Lewis Wants to Change Your Mind About Sam Bankman-Fried

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In March, when Sam Bankman-Fried, the disgraced founder of FTX, was sentenced to 25 years behind bars for stealing $8 billion from customers, many people saw it as just punishment for a two-faced poser who had spouted a lot of rot about altruism just to mask the rank odor of his relentless greed. Michael Lewis, the famed author of Moneyball and The Big Short, was not one of those people. Through his eyes, Sam didn’t look like a con man. He looked like an awkward but well-meaning kid who meant what he said about wanting to save the world and was undone not by avarice but by his “pathological ability to foist risk upon other people without asking their permission.” Michael is in a unique position to draw these conclusions. He spent the months leading up to and immediately following Sam’s downfall hovering over his shoulder, watching him operate, learning how he thought. Michael wrote a book about it, Going Infinite, (available on Amazon: https://amzn.to/4gcQvJa) published last fall, right as the crypto wunderkind-turned-pariah began his trial. Now that it’s out in paperback and the dust has settled, we invited Michael onto the show to talk about why he was drawn to Sam in the first place, what he thinks of the critics who say he was too soft on him, and how we should reconcile our primal desire for simple narratives with the complexity of real life. 00:00:13 *📖 Michael Lewis is known for his modern American narratives, similar to Mark Twain and Truman Capote.* 00:01:21 *📚 "Going Infinite" faced critique for not portraying Sam Bankman-Fried as a clear villain as expected.* 00:02:17 *🌟 Despite criticism, "Going Infinite" received praise from prestigious outlets for its literary quality.* 00:03:25 *📝 Lewis defends his portrayal of Bankman-Fried, emphasizing nuanced insights acknowledged by prosecutors.* 00:04:18 *🎭 Bankman-Fried's involvement with FTX involved legal complexities and challenges in the crypto industry.* 00:05:36 *🔍 Lewis challenges the perception of Bankman-Fried as a born conman, suggesting accidental rather than intentional fraudulent actions.* 00:06:50 *📖 The book humorously explores Bankman-Fried's personality akin to characters from classic literature.* 00:08:13 *📚 Lewis engages readers emotionally through humor and narrative complexity.* 00:09:23 *🎭 Controversies around Lewis's works like "Moneyball" have been later recognized for their cultural impact.* 00:10:47 *😄 Humor is integral to Lewis's approach in presenting multifaceted events.* 21:40 *🎮 During an interview, Sam multitasked playing Storybook Brawl with Anna Wintour.* 22:49 *📝 Lewis observed Sam's interactions firsthand at events like the Super Bowl with Anna Wintour.* 28:47 *🛬 Sam's unconventional approach to formal attire included wearing a worn blue suit to meet Mitch McConnell.* 30:46 *💰 Sam's philanthropy diverged from traditional methods, focusing on personal and political goals.* 41:08 *📉 FTX's downfall involved mismanagement of funds and a crypto market crash in 2022.* 42:32 *📉 Claims on FTX during its collapse were initially valued low but later traded above par.* 43:14 *😔 Many customers sold their claims in bankruptcy without realizing potential recovery.* 44:08 *🚔 Sam's actions involved risky financial decisions but weren't viewed as theft.* 44:51 *⚖️ Lewis questions the severity of Sam's sentence, arguing against excessive punishment.* 49:13 *🌍 Sam's image post-FTX collapse evokes sympathy, highlighting broader finance reforms.* 51:42 *📚 The trial narrative simplifies complex finance issues, deflecting from needed reforms.* 54:44 *🧠 Understanding Sam's risk perception challenges societal norms, urging nuanced discussions.* 🎟️ Join us for a live taping of this show on Sept. 11 with Yuval Noah Harari. More details at https://nextbigideaclub.com/events 🏛️ Check out “The Canary,” Michael’s installment in the Washington Post’s new series “Who is government?” 🎁 Get 25% off a Next Big Idea Club subscription when you use the code PODCAST at https://nextbigideaclub.com/ 💡Discover the best new books with the Next Big Idea Club, a revolutionary book club experience. Beyond just reading, the Next Big Idea Club is a journey. It’s where thought leaders converge, where ideas transform into action, and where books become a gateway to a brighter future. JOIN US https://www.nextbigideaclub.com For the best experience, download the Next Big Idea App. Apple App Store: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/next-big-idea-books-in-15min/id1502959151 Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.heleo.nbic OUR CURATORS 💡 Malcolm Gladwell: Renowned journalist, author, and speaker. 💡 Susan Cain: TED speaker, introvert advocate, bestselling author. 💡 Adam Grant: Noted psychologist, author, and Wharton School professor. 💡 Daniel Pink: Expert author on business, work, and behavior. Contact: [email protected] Subscribe for more insights: https://www.youtube.com/NextBigIdeaClub?sub_confirmation=1 #NextBigIdeaClub