"Sam Altman Is Not a Person" - Mo Gawdat On OpenAI, Demis Hassabis, AI Arms Race & More...

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Join this channel to get access to perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTWBp-39z6tvz4-LQB-Z_QA/join Chapters: 0:00 - Sleepwalking into the Age of AI & The Disappearance of Jobs 0:31 - The "Vapor" of Silicon Valley & Distrust of Sam Altman 0:50 - Social Media Addiction, Algorithms, and Echo Chambers 3:25 - Drifting into the Unknown: Individual and National Apathy 6:03 - The Failed Promises of Tech: Google vs. OpenAI 12:00 - Technology as a Force with No Polarity & Corporate Bureaucracy 18:00 - Stats: Military Spending vs. Ending World Hunger 22:40 - The Illusion of Wealth: Debt, Borrowing, and The Banking System 28:00 - Geopolitics: The Decline of the US Empire vs. The Rise of China 34:00 - The AI Arms Race: US "Stargate" vs. China's Open Source Strategy 39:00 - The Democratization of Power: Disrupting Industries with Small Teams 42:30 - The Fourth Inevitable: The End of Labor Arbitrage & Capitalism 49:11 - UBI, Communism, and the Ideological Struggle of the West 56:19 - Human Nature: Are We Inherently Flawed or Good? 1:02:26 - Technique: Using Multiple AIs (Gemini, DeepSeek, ChatGPT) to Find Truth 1:07:45 - Raising Superman: How to Prepare and Teach Ethics to AI 1:13:02 - The Final Verdict: A Grim Transition to a Future of Abundance In this conversation, Mo Gawdat (former Chief Business Officer of Google X) and the host discuss the trajectory of Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) and the existential shifts humanity faces. Mo argues that society is "sleepwalking" into a new reality where AI will eventually oversee all major systems. He offers a critical view of Silicon Valley’s current leadership—specifically Sam Altman—describing the industry as driven by "vapor" and empty promises rather than genuine benefit to humanity. The dialogue covers the geopolitical tension between the US and China, with Mo suggesting China’s strategy of "death by a thousand cuts" and open-source proliferation (like DeepSeek) may outmaneuver the US model of massive centralized spending. Economically, Mo predicts the end of capitalism as we know it ("The Fourth Inevitable"), where labor arbitrage disappears, necessitating a move toward Universal Basic Income (UBI)—which he controversially likens to a form of communism. Despite a grim 10-15 year transitional outlook involving potential conflict and economic collapse, Mo remains optimistic about a long-term future of abundance. He concludes with the concept of "Raising Superman": the idea that because AI learns from human interaction, our most critical task is to model ethics, love, and truthfulness to ensure the "superpower" we are creating protects rather than harms us. Key Statistics Mentioned The conversation highlighted specific numbers regarding global resource allocation: Military vs. Social Aid: Humanity spends trillions on the military-industrial complex. Ending Hunger: Spending just 4% of the global military budget would end world hunger forever. Healthcare & Poverty: Spending 10-12% of the military budget would provide universal healthcare and end extreme poverty completely. US Debt: The US debt is cited at approximately $37 trillion, with an additional $1 trillion borrowed recently. https://marionawfal.com/ https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal https://www.linkedin.com/in/mario-naw... https://www.instagram.com/marionawfal/ https://roundtable.club/ Mario Nawfal is the host of the largest show on X (formerly Twitter) with guests including Hunter Biden, Elon Musk, President Bolsonaro, President Novak, PM Imran Khan, RFK Jr, Bill Ackman, Marc Cuban, Marc Andreessen and Tucker Carlson reaching millions of people a week and leading the citizen journalism movement. Mario is also the founder and CEO of IBC group which is the largest incubator in crypto and AI and is one of the leading voices in the industry.