The Research That Rethinks Neuroscience & Biology | Dr. Bernardo Kastrup

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Watch the full interviews with Dr. Christof Koch and Professor Michael Levin, which are discussed in this video, here: https://youtu.be/uFMLpZkkH_8 https://youtu.be/1V-5t0ZPY7E Hans Busstra talks to Dr. Bernardo Kastrup about the groundbreaking work of Professor Michael Levin and Dr. Christof Koch. Levin’s research into bio-electric fields reveals that cellular networks use electrical signals not just for immediate physiological tasks, but to coordinate complex patterning and memory across tissues—suggesting a kind of distributed intelligence in living systems. Christof Koch, meanwhile, champions Integrated Information Theory (IIT), which proposes that consciousness is an intrinsic property of certain physical systems with high levels of causal interconnectivity. Both lines of inquiry challenge the traditional reductionist view that mind is merely an emergent byproduct of neural activity. Instead, they point to a more holistic, perhaps even fundamental, role for information and consciousness in nature. Though Levin and Koch make no explicit metaphysical claims in their work, their empirical findings and views are very much in line with analytic idealism. For a more in depth analysis of IIT by Bernardo Kastrup: https://www.essentiafoundation.org/in-defense-of-integrated-information-theory-iit/reading/ 0:00 Introduction On Michael Levin's work on bio-electric fields 2:49 What fascinates Bernardo about Michael Levin's work 4:34 Flatworms regenerate in ways not encoded in DNA 5:54 How do cells know how to grow organs? On morphogenesis 8:36 How does intelligence scale up? 11:43 On Zenobots and programmable life 12:30 Can you 'tell' cancer cells to stop growing? 17:01 Cancer as internal dissociation 20:00 Is Levin's work pointing to a paradigm shift? 22:09 How Levin’s ideas inform Kastrup’s thinking 26:47 What role does consciousness play in Levin's work? On Christof Koch's Integrated Information Theory 32:32 Bernardo explains Integrated Information Theory (IIT) 34:29 What does it mean to ‘integrate information’? 36:44 Bacteria vs AI: Which is truly intelligent? 38:08 Conscious machines are not intelligent machines? 38:46 Our brain vs artificial neural networks 42:18 What about quantum computers? 44:02 Is IIT a test for consciousness? 48:04 Is IIT the first theory of the noumena? 53:06 What is the substrate of universal consciousness? 56:14 Does Integrated Information increase on psychedelics? 57:00 Is “universal consciousness” just someone tripping? 58:49 On the clash between philosophy and IIT 1:00:25 The philosophical limits of IIT 1:07:10 Why Bernardo has high hopes for IIT 1:10:10 IIT in relationship to other consciousness theories 1:12:20 Bernardo introduces his new AI company: Syncthetics Stock and archival images: Storyblocks & Michael Levin Lab. All music is licensed under Soundstripe and Storyblocks. Copyright © 2025 by Essentia Foundation. All rights reserved.